Hi You, Yes, of course it is real, we create it. Meaning is something that we continuously create. I suppose that if none of that is real, then neither are we. Hypothetically speaking of course...
Namaste, Mark On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All > > I think Value is real, the meaning of a word also. If it wasn't, why choose > one word instead of another, why argue at all? > > Bla bla bla and so on, oops, forget that hypothetical nonsense > > Jan Anders > > > 22 aug 2012 kl. 18:53 skrev X Acto <[email protected]>: > >>> dmb says of Marsha: >>> In short, it's contradictory in the extreme. >> >> Marsha replies: >> The poet Baudelaire said that “true genius is the ability to hold two >> contradictory thoughts simultaneously without losing your mind.” >> >> Ron expands apon his meaning: >> For value to exist meaning must exist. >> Therefore what Baudelaire is saying is that a true genius can apprehend >> meaninglessness intellectually >> and not be disturbed by it. It's another way of pointing to empirical >> immediate experience to determine >> meaning and avoiding rational abstractions. >> >> People don't act meaninglessly or do things for meaningless reasons, that >> they act on anything >> is that it holds value, it holds meaning, or else why avoid an open well >> when it would be just >> as good to fall in? the fact that some >> patterns are better than others means that some patterns are more meaningful >> than others, some >> are more valuable than others and some are therefore more "true" than others. >> >> I would think on a forum dedicated to Bob Pirsigs MoQ one would not have to >> preface >> every use of the word "truth" with "provisional" or "conditional" because no >> one who >> subscribes to this forum needs to be constantly reminded that "truth" is not >> an abstract >> absolute! or we would not be here! how about a show of hands, exactly who >> DOES think truth is absolute? anyone? anyone at ALL? >> >> .. >> >> . >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
