Hi Mark It is easier to read when you write in a friendly tone. I appreciate that.
But how can I be sure about your intentions? "L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs." Jan Anders 25 aug 2012 kl. 07.18 skrev 118: > Hi You, > > Yes, of course it is real, we create it. Meaning is something that we > continuously create. I suppose that if none of that is real, then > neither are we. Hypothetically speaking of course... > > Namaste, > > Mark > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jan Anders Andersson > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi All >> >> I think Value is real, the meaning of a word also. If it wasn't, why choose >> one word instead of another, why argue at all? >> >> Bla bla bla and so on, oops, forget that hypothetical nonsense >> >> Jan Anders >> >> >> 22 aug 2012 kl. 18:53 skrev X Acto <[email protected]>: >> >>>> dmb says of Marsha: >>>> In short, it's contradictory in the extreme. >>> >>> Marsha replies: >>> The poet Baudelaire said that “true genius is the ability to hold two >>> contradictory thoughts simultaneously without losing your mind.” >>> >>> Ron expands apon his meaning: >>> For value to exist meaning must exist. >>> Therefore what Baudelaire is saying is that a true genius can apprehend >>> meaninglessness intellectually >>> and not be disturbed by it. It's another way of pointing to empirical >>> immediate experience to determine >>> meaning and avoiding rational abstractions. >>> >>> People don't act meaninglessly or do things for meaningless reasons, that >>> they act on anything >>> is that it holds value, it holds meaning, or else why avoid an open well >>> when it would be just >>> as good to fall in? the fact that some >>> patterns are better than others means that some patterns are more >>> meaningful than others, some >>> are more valuable than others and some are therefore more "true" than >>> others. >>> >>> I would think on a forum dedicated to Bob Pirsigs MoQ one would not have to >>> preface >>> every use of the word "truth" with "provisional" or "conditional" because >>> no one who >>> subscribes to this forum needs to be constantly reminded that "truth" is >>> not an abstract >>> absolute! or we would not be here! how about a show of hands, exactly who >>> DOES think truth is absolute? anyone? anyone at ALL? >>> >>> .. >>> >>> . >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
