Hi Craig,

When I am mindful, aware, watching, Steve Hagen's description of a stream seems 
quite appropriate, though my description would be a flow of patterns.  When I 
am not mindful, aware, watching, I don't know what is happening, so I don' know 
what I don't know.  I have not found any independent self providing magical 
solutions.  I've found only a stream of inorganic, biological, social and 
intellectual patterns.  
 

Marsha


On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> [Hagen]
>> we insert the notion of “I” we’re posited some little, solid entity that 
>> floats along, not as stream, but like a cork in a stream.  
>> We see ourselves as solid corks, not as the actual stream we are.
> 
> If the stream is a stream of consciousness, this isn't right.
> There is the sub-/un-conscious, too.  Sometimes we go to sleep with a problem 
> on our mind & wake up with a solution. 
> Where did the solution come from?  It was no part of the stream, yet it came 
> from us.  So we cannot be identical to the stream.
> Craig   
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