On Sep 8, 2012, at 5:59 AM, David Harding wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
>> Oh my, do you mean that I might be interested in where value/morals 
>> (patterns) come from?  I am also interested in the nature of all patterns 
>> and what individual patterns value.  
> 
> Except Marsha, you are not interested in high quality intellectual patterns.  
> Truth? What is a rose by any other name? 
> 
> -David.


Except David, I am interested in metaphysics, the MoQ, which is the branch of 
philosophy that inquires into the nature of reality and that makes it, _on the 
theoretical level_, an intellectual pattern of value.  That I do not agree with 
your intellectual opinion of this or that, is no trouble for me; sorry it is 
for you.  That I do not concur with your priorities or evaluations is not a 
problem for me; sorry it is for you.  I find it a higher value and more useful 
to consider objects of knowledge (stuff in the encyclopedia) patterns rather 
than truths.  And I find it of higher value and more useful to consider 
patterns as hypothetical for reasons that once one accepts the MoQ's 
fundamental principal that the world is nothing but Value, then 'expanded 
rationality' occurs when an individual transforms the natural tendency to reify 
self and world into the natural tendency to hold all static patterns of value 
to be hypothetical (supposed but not necessarily real or true.)  Unders
 tanding static (patterned) value as hypothetical acknowledges the 
incompleteness of what we know and makes room for additional inquiry with new 
possibilities; it promotes an attitude of fearless curiosity: gumption.  It 
moves one away from thinking of entities as existing inherently and existing 
independent of consciousness.  

I have agreed that 'truth' is an intellectual static pattern of value: it can 
be found in an encyclopedia but there is no consensus on how it should be 
interpreted.  I don't find your definition of 'truth' -  an idea which 
represents experience beautifully - very useful or beautiful.  I find holding 
PATTERNS as hypothetical far more elegant.  
 
 
Marsha
 

 
 
 
 






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