Jan-Anders,
A while back you told me that RMP was reading MALC. Has he written a review for your book? If not I think I'll wait until he does before I take you and RMP to be of one mind concerning the MoQ. Marsha On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote: > Dear Marsha > > After you've read my book twice you'd know that I would never adopt that > position. I, however, insist that you read and try to better understand me, > dmb or RMP. It's not dangerous, it's dynamic, and maybe fruitful also. > > Static patterns are real, and by that, patterns are a Part of the reality. > MOQ is a concept, a pattern and by that real, a Part of the Big Reality, but > it is not The Reality. You've got self-confidence, but that picture of your > self in your own mind-mirror is not the real you. Still it is an important > part of your reality. > > This is what RMP tells in Ch 32. Static patterns are contours, remnants of > Dynamic patterns. We never know the "goodness" of a dog completely, but we > can feel the smell of it. Patterns are carrying Value, the messenger of the > message, means for experience. I hope you see the message here. I showed you > that it is three-dimensional. The time and effort you put on MD(1), the > spotted series of characters and words(2) that carries the Carmic Garbage, > you know that you are free to like it or not(3). > > We don't have to throw away static values to be able to experience the > dynamic side of the reality. Calling all patterns hypothetical is pathetical > overkill to me. I don't find it useful at all. Andre's "la-di-da" is just > perfect in that case. > > If you read the complete ch 32 careful, it is quite clear what RMP means with > Carmic Garbage Static Patterns vs Dynamic Quality. He doesn't say "leave > Static Quality in favour of Dynamic Quality". He just point at that there are > two sides of the coin. (And that the coin has a value stamped on both sides > of it.) > > Now let's be more serious: > How could you tell a joke and make people laugh without using static, > socially common generalized, patterns? > > A native woman from the Kalahari desert was asked about what kind of sex > position she liked best? > > "Well, I think its best when he stands behind me while I'm whatching out of > the window for my husband." > > "La di da?" > > Jan Anders > > 3 nov 2012 kl. 05.11 skrev MarshaV: > >> >> >> Jan-Anders, >> >> It would be grossly delusional if I mistook my words and concepts to be >> certain and complete. That is why I prefer to think of static (patterned) >> value, objects of knowledge, as hypothetical (supposed but not necessarily >> real or true.) Once one accepts the MoQ's fundamental principal that the >> world is nothing but Value, then 'expanded rationality' occurs when an >> individual transforms the natural tendency to reify self and world into the >> natural tendency to hold all static patterns of value to be hypothetical >> (supposed but not necessarily real or true.) By using 'hypothetical' I >> think there is less of a tendency toward intellectual arrogance. >> Understanding static (patterned) value as hypothetical acknowledges the >> incompleteness of what we know and makes room for additional inquiry with >> new possibilities; it promotes an attitude of fearless curiosity: gumption. >> It moves one away from thinking of entities as existing inherently and >> independent of consciousness. But, I > am >> not insisting, nor even suggesting, that you adopt my position >> >> Marsha >> >> >> On Nov 2, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Marsha >>> >>> Does this mean that your writings and the words and concepts among other >>> static and predictable patterns are unreal? >>> >>> Jan Anders >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
