Dear Marsha

After you've read my book twice you'd know that I would never adopt that 
position. I, however, insist that you read and try to better understand me, dmb 
or RMP. It's not dangerous, it's dynamic, and maybe fruitful also.

Static patterns are real, and by that, patterns are a Part of the reality. MOQ 
is a concept, a pattern and by that real, a Part of the Big Reality, but it is 
not The Reality. You've got self-confidence, but that picture of your self in 
your own mind-mirror is not the real you. Still it is an important part of your 
reality.

This is what RMP tells in Ch 32. Static patterns are contours, remnants of 
Dynamic patterns. We never know the "goodness" of a dog completely, but we can 
feel the smell of it. Patterns are carrying Value, the messenger of the 
message, means for experience. I hope you see the message here. I showed you 
that it is three-dimensional. The time and effort you put on MD(1), the spotted 
series of characters and words(2) that carries the Carmic Garbage, you know 
that you are free to like it or not(3).

We don't have to throw away static values to be able to experience the dynamic 
side of the reality. Calling all patterns hypothetical is pathetical overkill 
to me. I don't find it useful at all. Andre's "la-di-da" is just perfect in 
that case.

If you read the complete ch 32 careful, it is quite clear what RMP means with 
Carmic Garbage Static Patterns vs Dynamic Quality. He doesn't say "leave Static 
Quality in favour of Dynamic Quality". He just point at that there are two 
sides of the coin. (And that the coin has a value stamped on both sides of it.)

Now let's be more serious:
How could you tell a joke and make people laugh without using static, socially 
common generalized, patterns?

A native woman from the Kalahari desert was asked about what kind of sex 
position she liked best?

"Well, I think its best when he stands behind me while I'm whatching out of the 
window for my husband."

"La di da?"

Jan Anders

3 nov 2012 kl. 05.11 skrev MarshaV:

> 
> 
> Jan-Anders,
> 
> It would be grossly delusional if I mistook my words and concepts to be 
> certain and complete.  That is why I prefer to think of static (patterned) 
> value, objects of knowledge, as hypothetical (supposed but not necessarily 
> real or true.)   Once one accepts the MoQ's fundamental principal that the 
> world is nothing but Value, then 'expanded rationality' occurs when an 
> individual transforms the natural tendency to reify self and world into the 
> natural tendency to hold all static patterns of value to be hypothetical 
> (supposed but not necessarily real or true.)  By using 'hypothetical' I think 
> there is less of a tendency toward intellectual arrogance.  Understanding 
> static (patterned) value as hypothetical acknowledges the incompleteness of 
> what we know and makes room for additional inquiry with new possibilities; it 
> promotes an attitude of fearless curiosity: gumption.  It moves one away from 
> thinking of entities as existing inherently and independent of consciousness. 
>   But, I 
 am
>  not insisting, nor even suggesting, that you adopt my position
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> Does this mean that your writings and the words and concepts among other 
>> static and predictable patterns are unreal?
>> 
>> Jan Anders
>> 
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