Dan: > There is nothing wrong with saying the city of Los Angeles experiences > an earthquake. We use the term experience in various ways. But when it > comes to the MOQ we should strive to be as precise as possible.
Craig [previously]: > So are you saying that when the city of Los Angeles experiences > an earthquake, it doesn't do so in the precise MoQ sense? Dan: > The term 'but' acts to negate the previous sentence. So you're denying that previous sentence--you're denying that "We use the term 'experience' in various ways". Dan: > The city of Los Angeles isn't a sentient being and so cannot respond to > Dynamic Quality as per the MOQ. Do you have any support for the view that anything other than "a sentient being...cannot respond to Dynamic Quality as per the MOQ"? Dan: > (static quality) is a memory of experience, not experience itself. So let's take the moon as an example of static quality. You're saying the moon is a memory of experience in a sentient being and Apollo 11 landed on a memory. So the moon couldn't exist before sentient beings. This will astonish scientists, but give comfort to creationists who agree with you that the earth is only 6,000 years old. Dan: > [Pirsig] said the central reality of Ayn Rand's > philosophy is the individual. "Just as man cannot survive by any random means, but must discover and practice the principles which his survival requires, so man’s self-interest cannot be determined by blind desires or random whims, but must be discovered and achieved by the guidance of rational principles. This is why the Objectivist ethics is a morality of rational self-interest—or of rational selfishness." [The Virtue of Selfishness by Ayn Rand] That's a nice quote, relevant to Rand's view of morality, but not to her view of what is central to reality. Craig [previously]: > is your point that there are blue objects in the world and everyone in the > same culture sees > these blue objects as the same? Dan: > No, that isn't my point. But you do believe it. Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
