Hi Joe dmb says: "Quality is shapeless, formless, indescribable. To see shapes and forms is to intellectualize. Quality is independent of any such shapes and forms. The names, the shapes and forms we give Quality depend only partly on the Quality. They also depend partly on the a priori images we have accumulated in our memory. We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. We build up our language in terms of these analogues."
Joe says: Welcome! I agree "an absolute truth is always a dogmatic truth" following the definition for "absolute" in the dictionary: "The ultimate basis of all thought, reasoning, or being". This can be realized in MOQ since DQ is indefinable. Pirsig proposes DQ/SQ metaphysics: DQ indefinable, SQ definable. I think you are both right here although I like to see quality as well being described as; "Quality is potentially every possible shape, Potentially every possible form, every possible description . This potential of being every posibillity of shape, form or discribtion in one point in time is what makes it dynamic. Like a treasure of gold can take any shape of what you possibly can buy. That's why a part of my definition says; Quality represent's "that"........... I only have to add sensation to make it an experience. Greetings Eddo 2013/4/11 Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> > Hi Eddo, > > Oops I forgot to sign my name. > > Joseph Maurer > > > On 4/11/13 12:45 PM, "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Eddo > > > > Welcome! I agree "an absolute truth is always a dogmatic truth" > following > > the definition for "absolute" in the dictionary: "The ultimate basis of > all > > thought, reasoning, or being". This can be realized in MOQ since DQ is > > indefinable. Pirsig proposes DQ/SQ metaphysics: DQ indefinable, SQ > > definable. > > > > > > On 4/9/13 1:30 PM, "Eddo Rats" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Absolut truth doesn't exist and the illusion of an absolut truth is > always > >> a dogmatic truth. > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
