Hi Joe and all dmb also says: They also depend partly on the a priori images we have accumulated in our memory. We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. We build up our language in terms of these analogues."
dmb is right here again altough i'd like the phrase subconscious mind better than memory. The memory potential stored in our subconscious mind can become a conscious memory through partly resonating with the information offered to us through our senses. The right amount of resonance causes the amount of sensation(feeling) that makes us experience a conscious memory. That's the reason why you can have the experience that e certain memory is on the tip of your tongue. The sensation experience makes you think that the memory is there although you still can't add the information to it. Creativity has also a lot to do with what is already there in your subconscious mind. There is a lot of information stored in your subconscious mind which has never been conscious before. so when you come up with a new idea it can be seen as DQ becomming SQ. The combination of a lot of SQ's makes a deduction possible to create a new SQ. This can also be seen as a partial DQ becomes SQ. Best Regards Eddo 2013/4/12 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> > Hi Joe > > dmb says: > "Quality is shapeless, formless, indescribable. To see shapes and forms is > to intellectualize. Quality is independent of any such shapes and forms. > The names, the shapes and forms we give Quality depend only partly on the > Quality. They also depend partly on the a priori images we have accumulated > in our memory. We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues > to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. We build > up our language in terms of these analogues." > > Joe says: > Welcome! I agree "an absolute truth is always a dogmatic truth" following > the definition for "absolute" in the dictionary: "The ultimate basis of all > thought, reasoning, or being". This can be realized in MOQ since DQ is > indefinable. Pirsig proposes DQ/SQ metaphysics: DQ indefinable, SQ > definable. > > I think you are both right here although I like to see quality as well > being described as; "Quality is potentially every possible shape, > Potentially every possible form, every possible description . > > This potential of being every posibillity of shape, form or discribtion in > one point in time is what makes it dynamic. Like a treasure of gold can > take any shape of what you possibly can buy. > > That's why a part of my definition says; Quality represent's > "that"........... I only have to add sensation to make it an experience. > > Greetings Eddo > > > > > 2013/4/11 Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> > >> Hi Eddo, >> >> Oops I forgot to sign my name. >> >> Joseph Maurer >> >> >> On 4/11/13 12:45 PM, "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi Eddo >> > >> > Welcome! I agree "an absolute truth is always a dogmatic truth" >> following >> > the definition for "absolute" in the dictionary: "The ultimate basis of >> all >> > thought, reasoning, or being". This can be realized in MOQ since DQ is >> > indefinable. Pirsig proposes DQ/SQ metaphysics: DQ indefinable, SQ >> > definable. >> > >> > >> > On 4/9/13 1:30 PM, "Eddo Rats" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Absolut truth doesn't exist and the illusion of an absolut truth is >> always >> >> a dogmatic truth. >> > >> > >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
