Honesty is undefinable,(inaccessible) etc Under the frase qualitas occultas and his concluding formula Nietzsche is saying that Honesty is unknowable, undefinable,etc,........it will outrun every defenition.
snip dmb-Nietzche Finally we formulate from them a qualitas occulta which has the name "honesty." We obtain the concept, as we do the form, by overlooking what is individual and actual; whereas nature is acquainted with no forms and no concepts, and likewise with no species, but only with an X which remains inaccessible and undefinable for us adrie 2013/4/18 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > dmb, > > Why don't YOU compare and discuss? Or is it your nature to rather > project, misrepresent, spout sarcasm, irony, parody & insults when other > compare and discuss. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:14 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Compare and discuss ---- > > > > > > "There must always be a discrepancy between concepts [static quality] > and reality [Dynamic Quality], because the former are static and > discontinuous while the latter is dynamic and flowing.' Here James had > chosen exactly the same words Phaedrus had used for the basic subdivision > of the Metaphysics of Quality." -- Robert Pirsig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Every word instantly becomes a concept precisely insofar as it is not > supposed to serve as a reminder of the unique and entirely individual > original experience to which it owes its origin; but rather, a word becomes > a concept insofar as it simultaneously has to fit countless more or less > similar cases—which means, purely and simply, cases which are never equal > and thus altogether unequal. Every concept arises from the equation of > unequal things. Just as it is certain that one leaf is never totally the > same as another, so it is certain that the concept "leaf" is formed by > arbitrarily discarding these individual differences and by forgetting the > distinguishing aspects. This awakens the idea that, in addition to the > leaves, there exists in nature the "leaf": the original model according to > which all the leaves were perhaps woven, sketched, measured, colored, > curled, and painted—but by incompetent hands, so that no specimen has > turned out to be a correct, trustworthy, and faithful likeness of the > original model. We call a person "honest," and then we ask "why has he > behaved so honestly today?" Our usual answer is, "on account of his > honesty." Honesty! This in turn means that the leaf is the cause of the > leaves. We know nothing whatsoever about an essential quality called > "honesty"; but we do know of countless individualized and consequently > unequal actions which we equate by omitting the aspects in which they are > unequal and which we now designate as "honest" actions. Finally we > formulate from them a qualitas occulta which has the name "honesty." We > obtain the concept, as we do the form, by overlooking what is individual > and actual; whereas nature is acquainted with no forms and no concepts, and > likewise with no species, but only with an X which remains inaccessible and > undefinable for us. For even our contrast between individual and species is > something anthropomorphic and does not originate in the essence of things; > although we should not presume to claim that this contrast does not > correspond to the essence of things: that would of course be a dogmatic > assertion and, as such, would be just as indemonstrable as its opposite." > — Friedrich Nietzsche > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
