Interesting post Craig, Where Bob states simply that the discrepancy has value, Fred seems to cast a rather dour atmosphere in regards to the rendering of one from the many and doesent really seem to value the disecrepancy as much as reacting to the monistic dominance of values of his day. I see Bob employing the descrepancy in a useful manner while Freds more of a deconstructionist.
-Ron Craig Erb <[email protected]> wrote: >"There must always be a discrepancy between concepts [static quality] and >reality [Dynamic Quality] -- Robert Pirsig > >"Every word instantly becomes a concept precisely insofar as it is not >supposed to serve as a reminder of the unique and entirely individual original >experience to which it owes its origin; but rather, a word becomes a concept >insofar as it simultaneously has to fit countless more or less similar >cases—which means, purely and simply, cases which are never equal and thus >altogether unequal. Every concept arises from the equation of unequal things. >Just as it is certain that one leaf is never totally the same as another, so >it is certain that the concept "leaf" is formed by arbitrarily discarding >these individual differences and by forgetting the distinguishing aspects. >This awakens the idea that, in addition to the leaves, there exists in nature >the "leaf": the original model according to which all the leaves were perhaps >woven, sketched, measured, colored, curled, and painted—but by incompetent >hands, so that no specimen has turned out to be a > correct, trustworthy, and faithful likeness of the original model." > — Friedrich Nietzsche > >Compare and discuss ----Craig >dmb > >I contrast. >Pirsig is comparing the pre-conceptual with the post-conceptual. >Nietzsche is comparing the concept with one of its instantiations (both >post-conceptual). >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
