Adding that Bob and Jimmy are talkin bout the distinction while Freds talkin reification.
X <[email protected]> wrote: >Interesting post Craig, >Where Bob states simply that the discrepancy has value, Fred seems to cast >a rather dour atmosphere in regards to the rendering of one from the many and >doesent really seem to value the disecrepancy as much as reacting to the >monistic >dominance of values of his day. I see Bob employing the descrepancy in a >useful >manner while Freds more of a deconstructionist. > >-Ron > > > >Craig Erb <[email protected]> wrote: > >>"There must always be a discrepancy between concepts [static quality] and >>reality [Dynamic Quality] -- Robert Pirsig >> >>"Every word instantly becomes a concept precisely insofar as it is not >>supposed to serve as a reminder of the unique and entirely individual >>original experience to which it owes its origin; but rather, a word becomes a >>concept insofar as it simultaneously has to fit countless more or less >>similar cases—which means, purely and simply, cases which are never equal and >>thus altogether unequal. Every concept arises from the equation of unequal >>things. Just as it is certain that one leaf is never totally the same as >>another, so it is certain that the concept "leaf" is formed by arbitrarily >>discarding these individual differences and by forgetting the distinguishing >>aspects. This awakens the idea that, in addition to the leaves, there exists >>in nature the "leaf": the original model according to which all the leaves >>were perhaps woven, sketched, measured, colored, curled, and painted—but by >>incompetent hands, so that no specimen has turned out to be a >> correct, trustworthy, and faithful likeness of the original model." >> — Friedrich Nietzsche >> >>Compare and discuss ----Craig >>dmb >> >>I contrast. >>Pirsig is comparing the pre-conceptual with the post-conceptual. >>Nietzsche is comparing the concept with one of its instantiations (both >>post-conceptual). >>Moq_Discuss mailing list >>Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>Archives: >>http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>http://moq.org/md/archives.html >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
