ok , this answer is important.Allow me to write my answer in dutch,(will take me some days), and have my son translate it into english; I have no intention what so ever to be misleading.
2013/4/27 david buchanan <[email protected]> > > "Truth is a static intellectual pattern within a larger entity called > Quality." > > > > Adrie said to dmb: > One day long time ago, a patent office clerck was kinda bored with reality > as whe know it, and took a white sheet approach, an empty sheet approach on > gravity,relativity,time,speed, etc, and wrote out the complete special > relativity theory, and general relativity. none of the facts were derived > from value's, none of the value's were derived from facts. At first , there > was nothing, after this, it was all there. It seems to be so that it > arrived at him in a dynamical way. > > > dmb says: > It was arrived at in a dynamical way, yes, but it is very misleading to > suggest he began with a blank slate or pulled it out of thin air. Like > Poincare, he was already an expert in mathematical and physical thinking > and he was deeply immersed in highly abstract thinking prior to the > explosion of creativity. These things don't happen in a vacuum, you know? > > "'Zen monks' daily life is nothing but on ritual after another. Hour after > hour, day after day, all his life. They don't tell him to shatter those > static patterns to discover the unwritten Dharma, they want him to get > those patterns perfect. The explanation for this contradiction is the > belief that you do not free yourself from static patterns by fighting them > with other contrary static patterns. That is sometimes called 'bad karma > chasing its tail.' You free yourself from static patterns by putting them > to sleep. That is, you MASTER them with such proficiency that they become > an unconscious part of your nature. You get so used to them you completely > forget them and they are gone. There in the center of the most monotonous > boredom of static ritualistic patterns the Dynamic freedom is found." > > Pirisg says the same thing in more concrete terms, wherein the artful > motorcycle mechanic has to know the tools and the machine, has to have a > feel for the work and he has to care about what he's doing. That kind of > mastery and proficiency is what allows a dynamic, creative solution. It's > paradoxical - as opposed to being a mere contradiction, but Dynamic freedom > is found right there in the center of all those static patterns. This point > is even clearer in the case of the Poincare. His Dynamic insight was a > result of being hip deep in math problems, the result being stuck in a > giant pile of very elaborate and very rigid static patterns, and then BAM! > Intellectual static patterns are NOT the enemy of creativity. Quite the > opposite. They're not enough all by themselves but they are necessary. > "If you want to build a factory, or fix a motorcycle, or set a nation > right without getting stuck, then classical, structured, dualistic > subject-object knowledge, although necessary, isn’t enough. You have to > have some feeling for the quality of the work. You have to have a sense of > what’s good. That is what carries you forward. This sense isn’t just > something you’re born with, although you are born with it. It’s also > something you can develop. It’s not just ‘intuition,’ not just > unexplainable ‘skill’ or ‘talent.’ It’s the direct result of contact with > basic reality, Quality, which dualistic reason has in the past tended to > conceal.” ZAMM 284 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
