> [David to Marsha] > You do indeed follow your own logic. Your logic follows what you value.. > While I may disagree with large chunks of that logic it is still your own > logic and you still do logically use the MOQ and its levels in your > thinking.. > > [Arlo] > By this "logic", the concept of "logic" is rendered meaningless. There is > nothing "illogical" just and endless variety of "own logics". This, David, is > a rather undiluted subjectivism. If everything is "purple", and nothing is > "not purple", then purpleness has no meaning.
Arlo - if you'll read my post to dmb I explain that I think Marsha is actually (somewhat) logically using the MOQ to justify her thoughts. Of course, some logic is better than others - and of course what I deem to be logical - others do not - and vice versa. But that doesn't, as you seem to suggest, immediately imply that we devolve into a whole bunch of relative truths and 'own logics'. Why is that? Because logic is based on values and value is universal and thus so is the quality of one logic over another. To state the obvious - if dmb and I (for instance) think that Marsha is being illogical - that doesn't mean that to Marsha - she is being illogical or (for instance) that if you were to value the same thing which Marsha does - that you are being illogical. Marsha has her 'own logic' which is created by the value she sees in the MOQ. The key thing here is that what we call 'logical' *follows* our values. If we have different values then we are going to have a different logic. How good or bad that logic appears will depend on our values. Disagreements about the MOQ aren't so much about what is and isn't logical - but about what does and does not have value. So while I don't think Marsha's views on the MOQ are very good - and could be a whole lot better - they still do have some amount of value.. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
