War woman, I have read it slowly and carefully and I understand what Pirsig is saying but I'm not quite getting what you are trying to say by highlighting the term "truth" as a singularity. I have no idea what you mean since your explanation seems contradictory unclear and obscure. Therefore I cant say anything about the point you are trying to make or whether or not it conflicts with Pirsig, James, Dmb or my own point of view. It seems to conflict with your two truths assertion, it also seems to conflict with your assertion that all intellectual patterns are truth patterns.
So .....alittle clarification as to where this is all going would be nice if you want me disagree about anything. x-man . MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Corrected post. > > >On May 28, 2013, at 1:02 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Warwoman sez to Dmb: >> The automobile, the airplane and the bicycle do not translate into a >> legitimate replacement for 'a static intellectual pattern'. The automobile, >> the airplane and the bicycle represent a straw man argument: >> >> Ron sez: >> Does this make the automobile one exclusive singular automobile? > > > >x-man, > >RMP's statement also uses 'a static intellectual pattern'. That's 'a', not >'the'. That's 'a static intellectual pattern'. As '_a_ static intellectual >pattern' it may include all intellectual references to the philosophical >pursuit of truth including all philosophical theories of truth. As I wrote to >dmb: I posted two RMP quotes (statements made by Mr. Pirsig) where he uses >the singular form of the verb 'to be' pertaining to 'truth'. Read the post. >I made no additional points, but merely posted RMP's words. Read RMP's words. > I doubt that he had a lapse in using the rules of grammar. Read the words >slowing. There is no reason to accuse me of anything. Please note he also >does not use 'static intellectual patterns', but used 'a static intellectual >pattern'; that is also the singular usage. His words. RMP's words, not mine. > If it conflicts with your Pirsig/James interpretation, it's not my problem. >- Read the quotes. > >If these quotes conflict with dmb's interpretation of his Pirsig/James >interpretation, that is not my problem. > > >Marsha > > > >On May 27, 2013, at 3:42 AM, MarshaV wrote: > >> >> To bring this back to the subject: >> >> "Truth is a [singular] static intellectual pattern [singular] within a >> larger entity called Quality. James had tried to make his pragmatism popular >> by getting it elected on the coattails of practicality. He was always eager >> to use such expressions as 'cash-value,' and 'results,' and 'profits,' in >> order to make pragmatism intelligible to 'the man in the street,' but this >> got James into hot water. Pragmatism was attacked by critics as an attempt >> to prostitute truth to the values of the marketplace. James was furious with >> this misunderstanding and he fought hard to correct the misinterpretation, >> but he never really overcame the attack. >> >> "What Phaedrus saw was that the Metaphysics of Quality avoided this attack >> by making it clear that the good to which truth is [singular] subordinate >> is intellectual and Dynamic Quality ..." >> >> (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 28) >> >> --- >> >> "The MOQ does not turn its back on the empiricist belief that the more we >> analyse, the closer we approach to truth. Truth is [singular] the highest >> quality static intellectual pattern [singular] and analysis has shown over >> and over again historically that it improves the quality of intellectual >> patterns." >> >> (RMP, 'Copleston Annotations') >> >> --- >> >> is [verb] >> >> 1. 3rd person singular present indicative of be. >> >> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/is?s=t > > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
