x-man, I did not seek your agreement.
Marsha On May 28, 2013, at 7:17 PM, X <[email protected]> wrote: > War woman, > I have read it slowly and carefully and I understand what Pirsig is saying > but I'm not quite getting what you are trying to say by highlighting the term > "truth" as a singularity. > I have no idea what you mean since your explanation seems contradictory > unclear and obscure. Therefore I cant say anything about the point you are > trying to make or whether or not it conflicts with Pirsig, James, Dmb or my > own point of view. > It seems to conflict with your two truths assertion, it also seems to conflict > with your assertion that all intellectual patterns are truth patterns. > > So .....alittle clarification as to where this is all going would be nice > if you want me disagree about anything. > > x-man > > . > > MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On May 28, 2013, at 1:02 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Warwoman sez to Dmb: >>> The automobile, the airplane and the bicycle do not translate into a >>> legitimate replacement for 'a static intellectual pattern'. The >>> automobile, the airplane and the bicycle represent a straw man argument: >>> >>> Ron sez: >>> Does this make the automobile one exclusive singular automobile? >> >> >> >> x-man, >> >> RMP's statement also uses 'a static intellectual pattern'. That's 'a', not >> 'the'. That's 'a static intellectual pattern'. As '_a_ static intellectual >> pattern' it may include all intellectual references to the philosophical >> pursuit of truth including all philosophical theories of truth. As I wrote >> to dmb: I posted two RMP quotes (statements made by Mr. Pirsig) where he >> uses the singular form of the verb 'to be' pertaining to 'truth'. Read the >> post. I made no additional points, but merely posted RMP's words. Read >> RMP's words. I doubt that he had a lapse in using the rules of grammar. >> Read the words slowing. There is no reason to accuse me of anything. >> Please note he also does not use 'static intellectual patterns', but used 'a >> static intellectual pattern'; that is also the singular usage. His words. >> RMP's words, not mine. If it conflicts with your Pirsig/James >> interpretation, it's not my problem. - Read the quotes. >> >> If these quotes conflict with dmb's interpretation of his Pirsig/James >> interpretation, that is not my problem. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> On May 27, 2013, at 3:42 AM, MarshaV wrote: >> >>> >>> To bring this back to the subject: >>> >>> "Truth is a [singular] static intellectual pattern [singular] within a >>> larger entity called Quality. James had tried to make his pragmatism >>> popular by getting it elected on the coattails of practicality. He was >>> always eager to use such expressions as 'cash-value,' and 'results,' and >>> 'profits,' in order to make pragmatism intelligible to 'the man in the >>> street,' but this got James into hot water. Pragmatism was attacked by >>> critics as an attempt to prostitute truth to the values of the marketplace. >>> James was furious with this misunderstanding and he fought hard to correct >>> the misinterpretation, but he never really overcame the attack. >>> >>> "What Phaedrus saw was that the Metaphysics of Quality avoided this attack >>> by making it clear that the good to which truth is [singular] subordinate >>> is intellectual and Dynamic Quality ..." >>> >>> (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 28) >>> >>> --- >>> >>> "The MOQ does not turn its back on the empiricist belief that the more we >>> analyse, the closer we approach to truth. Truth is [singular] the highest >>> quality static intellectual pattern [singular] and analysis has shown >>> over and over again historically that it improves the quality of >>> intellectual patterns." >>> >>> (RMP, 'Copleston Annotations') >>> >>> --- >>> >>> is [verb] >>> >>> 1. 3rd person singular present indicative of be. >>> >>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/is?s=t >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
