On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:11 AM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR wrote: > [djh] > The goal of Zen is enlightenment which is brought about through the mastery > and perfection of the static patterns but those patterns or the new patterns > created are not the goal - the elimination of them is. > > [Arlo] > If you're not a better person at Point B than Point A, if the "enlightenment" > does not- in some way- create 'betterness', then I'd say its not > enlightenment at all. Its simply "going to sleep".
Marsha: Buddhism emphasizes a certain type of grasping, or attachment, that causes suffering which could be made better by non-attachment. Suffering, whether it be the frustration of fixing a motorcycle or the pain caused by a relationship or the aggression in insisting your point-of-view is philosophically *correct*, is a form of pollution, so maybe it is enough, in most cases, to detach or lessen the attachment so as not to add to the pollution. Of course there is often more that can be done, but it would be better not to add your bad karma to the world's (conventional) suffering. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
