Marsha, I don't think non-attached caring is only 'spontaneous'. It can also be quite deliberate. For example there is the 'effortless effort' as discussed in Zen and the Art of Archery..
> On 21 Jul 2013, at 6:42 pm, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > I have been thinking about *caring.* Might it be said that there is a > *caring* that is quite natural and spontaneous, and there is a *caring* that > represents something more like bondage? > > > Marsha > > > > >> On Jul 20, 2013, at 12:53 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> [Marsha] >> It might be difficult for those who have not practiced mindful-awareness to >> imagine functioning without any accompanying linguistic narration >> >> [Arlo] >> To the contrary, I wish some people would go live their lives without any >> accompanying linguistic narration. >> >> Ron: >> You said it, >> >> It is what I have had to practice lately, by the simple virtue of just being >> overwhelmed. I have had to make decisions on the fly >> I have had to push through physical limitations all in a drive for >> "betterness". I've taken the time to respond mostly by wanting >> to say that I have been finding your posts very meaningful and also because >> Marsha's use of the term mindful-awareness has >> caught my attention. >> I take her meaning of the term to imply a "carefulness" since both mindful >> and aware equate to the same thing which would >> lead me to conclude that a "mindful" awareness is a "careful" awareness and >> a careful awareness is an awarness aimed at >> betterness. >> This bringing me back to my own aim at betterness, my careful awareness, my >> push through physical limitations and my >> cessastion of any accompanying linguistic narration. The "just do it." part >> of the drive mostly achieved by an intellectual ideal >> I have cultured, a "care" above all others that I must continually redefine >> and clarify in order for it to hold the meaning required >> for the drive to be executed and sustained. >> >> It just makes me aware how important that intellectual ideal is, how its >> formed and it's overarching aim. >> >> For instance I was just made aware that in order to succeed at my aim of a >> better life for my family I must also take >> my own well-being into account. I had coped with the typical suffering and >> reward type cycle, now I am faced with >> re-thinking my reward structure and how I conceive of what "reward" really >> means to me in my aim. Forcing me >> to make the quality distinction between counter-productive rewards and >> productive ones. >> >> But it was when I could establish what I cared most about and why that the >> form of the good became clearer to me >> in that it influenced my perception of the immediate now and my >> participation in it. >> >> To me, this is practicing mindful awareness but somehow I get the feeling >> thats not what she meant. >> >> .. >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
