David,

Oh, you are correct.  I should have stated more clearly that I was including 
all the gradations between "natural and spontaneous" and "bondage" when it 
comes to *caring*, but I have mentioned often enough that I reject most 
either/or juxtapositioning.  -   And your mentioning of 'Zen and the Art of 
Archery' could have be construed as having a ring of authority.  Sorry if I 
misunderstood your intent.  _As I wrote, I was trying to open up the subject of 
*caring*_.   

Also, David, it is not ALL "mystical and anti-authoritarian" with me.  In fact, 
it is not ALL anything with me.  I am sometimes mystical and sometimes 
anti-authoriarian, but mostly not either.  And further those terms are much too 
grandiose to use in regards to me.   And even further, it's not about me at 
all, but about *caring*.  
  
 
Marsha





On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:52 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
>>>> [Marsha wrote]
>>>> I have been thinking about *caring.*  Might it be said that there is a 
>>>> *caring* that is quite natural and spontaneous, and there is a *caring* 
>>>> that represents something more like bondage?
> 
> 
>>> [David responded]
>>> I don't think non-attached caring is only 'spontaneous'. It can also be 
>>> quite deliberate. For example there is the 'effortless effort' as discussed 
>>> in Zen and the Art of Archery..
> 
> 
>> [Marsha replied]
>> I didn't state that non-attached caring is *only* 'spontaneous', and I have 
>> never read 'Zen and the Art of Archery', nor am I a student of Zen Buddhism. 
>>  'Deliberate' seems like a good word.  I was just trying to open up the 
>> subject of *caring*.  I don't like to put things in terms of either/or, but 
>> see gradations between alternatives.  I don't think that priests and 
>> government administrators, or even scientists should dictate what and who 
>> one should care about, yet I do think one should always try to do the right 
>> thing.  
> 
> [David responds]
> But Marsha you created an either/or juxtaposition between a 
> 'natural/spontaneous' caring and 'bondage' caring.  That was your 
> juxtaposition, not mine.  
> 
> But what do you care about these juxtapositions that you create with your 
> words right?  They're only analogies… They aren't the underlying Dynamic 
> Quality which is the source of all things.. No words can capture that.
> 
> And who ever talked about authority? I just asked you about a statement you 
> made. It's all very mystical and anti-authoritarian with you...
> 
> 
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