>>> [Marsha 1]
>>> Disagree if you like, but that's my experience.  Maybe the "appreciation" 
>>> happens when one is not trying to grasp either perspective.
>> 
>>> [Marsha 2]
>>> Intellectually that may be true, but is that still true from the 360-degree 
>>> perspective?  What good is an expanded rationality if it still demonstrates 
>>> aggressiveness and uses character assassination to achieve its ends: same 
>>> old, same old.  It doesn't fit.  I think some have skipped moving through 
>>> the180-degree point, which is not an intellectual exercise.
>> 
>> [djh]
>> 
>> Marsha you wrote:
>> 
>> "I am at the MD to explore RMP's Metaphysics of Quality and the MoQ's 
>> relationship to Buddhism, and the way they play in living my life."
>> 
>> How are you here to 'explore' RMP's MOQ?  Are you here to explore it 
>> intellectually or in some other way?  
>> 
>> It's bleedingly obvious that you're not here to explore anything 
>> intellectually.  You think that talking about Dynamic Quality and 
>> non-grasping and enlightenment and 'ever-changing' things is 'exploring' the 
>> MOQ.  But it isn't.  To point out something else exceedingly obvious - the 
>> MOQ is an intellectual thing - the type of 'exploring' you want to do is not 
>> intellectual.  
>> 
>> You talk about not being too fixated on something - well I think you're 
>> fearing that in others that which you fear most in yourself.   You are the 
>> one fixating on the 180 degree enlightenment point that Dynamic Quality is 
>> the source of all things and neglecting the importance of moving on from 
>> this fact and going back to the patterns themselves to find 360 degree 
>> enlightenment.    What you fail to see as a result of your fixation is that 
>> Dynamic Quality as the source of all static quality can actually also be an 
>> *intellectual* insight and not just an experience of Dynamic Quality.  This 
>> is what Paul Turner talks about in his two contexts paper.   Only once you 
>> appreciate this intellectual fact will you be able to move on into looking 
>> intellectually at the patterns themselves. 

> [Marsha]
> Was my response incoherent?   

[djh]
Your response intellectually lacked coherence.. We can call that incoherence 
sure.. Was my response incoherent? Your short response shows that you do not 
value an intellectual discussion about this.  I wish I was wrong..
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