David,

You ask, "Why not say that ?"
Because it's trivially true, a given from our MoQish perspective,
(nothing contentious as I already said) not the point I was making.

I was actually adding another point in a conversation with Arlo.
So, starting from your point:

DJH - "When we talk about ideas our cultural patterns also play a role
in their expression."

Absolutely. And my point was (is) one aspect of those patterns we use
in our expressions of ideas (and in interpreting the expressions of
others) is our culturally conditioned understanding of what gives that
expression intellectual value.

(Arlo has started to talk about that value in terms of "coherence"
.... continuing in a reply to Arlo)
Ian


On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM, David Harding
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> [Ian]
>> So this is my point - we (radically) experience different levels of
>> coherence consonance / dissonance psychologist might say - but when we
>> objectify them enough to describe, define and argue about them, we
>> bring a "model of coherence" to that argumentation.
>
> [djh]
>
> Ian, why not just say that -  "We experience different levels of quality 
> because of our varied cultural patterns. When we talk about ideas our 
> cultural patterns also play a role in their expression."?  Ironically your 
> words seem very incoherent and are causing confusion. We have a shared 
> culture and language here of the MOQ. Please use it.
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