On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:55 AM, X Acto wrote: Marsha: You want to pose as a moralist? That's amusing. Here's a quote you missed:
"There are so many kinds of problem people like Rigel around, he thought, but the ones who go posing as moralists are the worst. Cost-free morals. Full of great ways for others to improve without any expense to themselves. There's an ego thing in there, too. They use the morals to make someone else look inferior and that way look better themselves. It doesn't matter what the moral code is - religious morals, political morals, racist morals, capitalist morals, feminist morals, hippie morals - they're all the same. The moral codes change but the meanness and the egotism stay the same." (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 7) Ron: Woman of Mars, Pirsig suggests we all are moralists. You like to pose as if you are not. That is more amusing. Here is another quote you have missed: "That may have been why Rigel was so angry back in Kingston. He thought Lila was immoral because she'd broken up a family and destroyed a man's position in the social community - a biological pattern of quality, sex, had destroyed a social pattern of quality, a family and a job. What made Rigel mad was that into this scene come intellectuals like Phaedrus who say it's unintelligent to repress biological drives. You must decide these matters on the basis of reason, not on the basis of social codes. But if Rigel identified Phaedrus with this intellect-vs.-society code and the social upheavals it has produced, he certainly picked on the wrong person. The Metaphysics of Quality uproots the intellectual source of this confusion" The source of the confusion and the problem are partially due to the "hippie" morals you and others express, that thinking itself is evil ... Marsha now: We are all moralists in that we are composed of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual static patterns of value, "Because Quality is morality. Make no mistake about it. They're identical." I consider you, and me, a flow of bits and pieces of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent static patterns responding within an field of Dynamic Quality. I think RMP's complaint in the quote was of the conventional church-lady type of social moralizing. As for the rest, do you just make stuff up? This is another case of accusation without proof: gossip. I do not think that thinking is evil, and I've never been a hippie. In fact, I was rather conservative and a Republican until about 1986. How is one to deal with such baloney? It's projection, projection, projection!!! So amusing and typical of your posts. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
