Hi Eddo, I believe the suffering that the Buddha was addressing was the self-inflicted (gumption trap) variety? How do you maintain peace-of-mind to best address the problem?
Marsha On Aug 25, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote: > Enlightenment; The cessation of suffering happens when you understand the > necessity of suffering. > > In the overcommming of suffering you feel alive, without it there is no > reason for living. > > Kind regards > > Eddo > > > 2013/8/25 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Greetings, >> >> It's always interesting to revisit this 2006 interview by Tim Adams from >> the Guardian: >> >> >> 'Yes, but then a kind of chaos set in. Suddenly I realised that the person >> who had come this far was about to expire. I was terrified, and curious as >> to what was coming. I felt so sorry for this guy I was leaving behind. It >> was a separation. This is described in the psychiatric canon as catatonic >> schizophrenia. It is cited in the Zen Buddhist canon as hard enlightenment. >> I have never insisted on either - in fact I switch back and forth depending >> on who I am talking to.' >> >> Midwestern American society of 1960 took the psychiatrist's view. Pirsig >> was treated at a mental institution, the first of many visits. Looking >> back, he suggests he was just a man outside his time. 'It was a contest, I >> believe, between these ideas I had and what I see as the cultural immune >> system. When somebody goes outside the cultural norms, the culture has to >> protect itself.' >> >> That immune system left him with no job and no future in philosophy; his >> wife was mad at him, they had two small kids, he was 34 and in tears all >> day. Did he think of it at the time as a Zen experience? >> >> 'Not really. Though the meditation I have done since takes you to a >> similar place. If you stare at a wall from four in the morning till nine at >> night and you do that for a week, you are getting pretty close to >> nothingness. And you get a lot of opportunities for staring in an asylum.' >> >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2006/nov/19/fiction >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
