Eddo, I like your answer of "practice by facing all kinds of suffering".
When you don't feel the need for keeping peace-of-mind? You are good. By laughing, I wonder if you mean laughing at yourself in the situation? That's a better strategy than taking a chainsaw to the motorcycle (or other people) in frustration? But maybe you meant something else? Marsha On Aug 25, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote: > Through practice(by facing all kinds of suffering), and when i want others > to notice me suffering i don't feel the need for keeping peace-of-mind but > most of the time i can't hide my laughter. > > Kind regards > > Eddo > > > 2013/8/25 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >> >> Hi Eddo, >> >> I believe the suffering that the Buddha was addressing was the >> self-inflicted (gumption trap) variety? How do you maintain peace-of-mind >> to best address the problem? >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> On Aug 25, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Enlightenment; The cessation of suffering happens when you understand the >>> necessity of suffering. >>> >>> In the overcommming of suffering you feel alive, without it there is no >>> reason for living. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Eddo >>> >>> >>> 2013/8/25 MarshaV <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> It's always interesting to revisit this 2006 interview by Tim Adams from >>>> the Guardian: >>>> >>>> >>>> 'Yes, but then a kind of chaos set in. Suddenly I realised that the >> person >>>> who had come this far was about to expire. I was terrified, and curious >> as >>>> to what was coming. I felt so sorry for this guy I was leaving behind. >> It >>>> was a separation. This is described in the psychiatric canon as >> catatonic >>>> schizophrenia. It is cited in the Zen Buddhist canon as hard >> enlightenment. >>>> I have never insisted on either - in fact I switch back and forth >> depending >>>> on who I am talking to.' >>>> >>>> Midwestern American society of 1960 took the psychiatrist's view. Pirsig >>>> was treated at a mental institution, the first of many visits. Looking >>>> back, he suggests he was just a man outside his time. 'It was a >> contest, I >>>> believe, between these ideas I had and what I see as the cultural immune >>>> system. When somebody goes outside the cultural norms, the culture has >> to >>>> protect itself.' >>>> >>>> That immune system left him with no job and no future in philosophy; his >>>> wife was mad at him, they had two small kids, he was 34 and in tears all >>>> day. Did he think of it at the time as a Zen experience? >>>> >>>> 'Not really. Though the meditation I have done since takes you to a >>>> similar place. If you stare at a wall from four in the morning till >> nine at >>>> night and you do that for a week, you are getting pretty close to >>>> nothingness. And you get a lot of opportunities for staring in an >> asylum.' >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2006/nov/19/fiction >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
