Hi Dave

There are a number of reasons why I haven't removed Marsha.
First and foremost, she hasn't broken any of the rules of MD - others have broken more and they're still here. Misunderstanding Pirsig isn't sufficient reason for removing anyone from MD - at some point we've all been wrong about some part of the MoQ. In some ways the MoQ is simple and in other ways it's a lot more complex. It would be unfair to remove Marsha just because she's wrong about certain aspects of the MoQ - even those that are fundamental. How are people that are wrong going to learn about how they're wrong if they just get thrown out? I think that Marsha is trying to engage more reasonably and responsibly, having read her last few posts. I also think she's stuck in a place where she is not able to see how she's wrong - which probably sounds incredibly patronising but it's not meant that way. As I suggested, why not take it one item at a time and demonstrate where she's misinterpreted Pirsig. The DQ/SQ split might be a good starting point. If you can get that sorted out then a lot of other things should fall into place.

Do you remember what I said to you at the conference Dave, about mysticism? It was you who helped me get that particular problem I was having straightened out. It took a while too as I remember! So don't give up on Marsha, I'm sure she'll come right eventually.

Happy trails :)

Horse



On 20/09/2013 19:30, david buchanan wrote:
Arlo said to Horse:

Horse, you have an endless supply of optimism and patience. I hope you have the 
time to watch the dialogue carefully, and act accordingly.




dmb says:

I dare to say that infinite patience, in this situation, might be a bad policy. 
I think it's pretty clear that Marsha has been undermining the central purpose 
of this forum for a long time now, not to mention her undermining of the MOQ 
with a lot of contradictory nonsense.

Why is she permitted to stay? Even after your personal pleas to act responsibly 
and reasonably, she continues with same evasive, dismissive, irresponsible 
non-replies. She denies the charges of relativism by invoking more relativism 
and denies the charges of contradiction with more contradictions. It's so 
completely ridiculous that she must be totally incompetent or she's playing 
some kind of weird game. In either case, this forum is totally dominated by her 
antics. The MOQ plays second fiddle, at best. Please, Horse, this cannot go on. 
She's shitting all over your house, man. It's not right.




                                        
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