Andre to Marsha:
That's not the point Marsha and you know it. I am not making the claims you 
make!
When you are constantly trying to undermine the MoQ by appeals to vipassana 
experiences, seeing bits and pieces of your self floating by, living in the now 
and repeating again and again that all is emptiness anyway(so why bother) no 
wonder I find your hypothetical statement about YOUR experience trumping 
explanation odd, to say the least.

Your response above is just another cowardly Lucy action.

Marsha responds:
Are you trying to articulate between one interested in self liberation and one 
on the Bodhisattva path,because I am a mere student, have never claimed 
otherwise, and have no idea of your high-minded complaints.

Andre:
A typical Lucy action: denial in innocence. The first bit of the sentence is 
stupid but the last bit gets tricky because that is a blatant lie. You DO have 
an idea of my complaints. Of the way your anti-intellectual nihilation of 
Pirsig's MoQ positions itself every time you write something here.

No wonder I get a quirky/unreal feeling everytime you express 'concern' for 
someone or some situation: you are fake. There is nothing genuine in your 
writing at all. Nothing carries meaning, nothing is real. All seems to be a 
challenge (this is ego stuff). There is no heart and there's no intelligence. 
There's just a pseudo, new agey 'I'd rather hug-a-tree' type thing when you 
write something.

It simply says: Fuck off, leave me alone, I'm the best judge of my own 
experience. I'll even criticise Pirsig for producing a metaphysics that doesn't 
comply to my experience...and you can say anything you want!!! I will not budge.

This is a shame because this is a site where we are discussing Pirsig's MoQ and 
not yours.

And before you get personal, all this is hypothetically speaking of course.

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