Marsha had written: In mindful awareness one drops the narration (language) function for a more perceptual (immediate) experience, but there is still pattern identification in differentiating shapes, smells, sounds, tastes and touch. The differentiating is there with perceiving too. Sans language. Undifferentiated, unpatterned Dynamic Quality is not this. My experience trumps the explanation.
dmb: Marsha's self-congratulatory assertions about her private zone-out sessions, which she uses as a trump card over rationality, violate the letter and the spirit of Pirsig's explanations. Marsha: Please consider this: "... what that one stuff of which things and thoughts are both made might be. What is required, James argues, is an approach he calls radical empiricism. Empiricism, he insists, is the opposite of rationalism. Rationalism tends to emphasize universals and to make wholes prior to parts. "Empiricism on the contrary lays the explanatory stress upon the part, the element as an abstraction. To be radical, an empiricism must neither admit into its construction any element that is not directly experienced nor exclude from them any element that is experienced."" ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
