Marsha had written:
In mindful awareness one drops the narration (language) function for a more 
perceptual (immediate) experience, but there is still pattern identification in 
differentiating shapes, smells, sounds, tastes and touch.  The differentiating 
is there with perceiving too.  Sans language.  Undifferentiated, unpatterned 
Dynamic Quality is not this.  My experience trumps the explanation.


dmb:
Marsha's self-congratulatory assertions about her private zone-out sessions, 
which she uses as a trump card over rationality, violate the letter and the 
spirit of Pirsig's explanations. 


Marsha:
Please remember:


The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but 
to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, 
intellectual attachments of the past. "
         (LILA, Chapter 9) 


“Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and 
always... I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most fundamental of all 
the postulates of Psychology” 
   (W. James, 1890)


“Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who 
looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes” 
        (C.G. Jung)











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