Hi Ron,

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Good philosophical question.

"Right understanding is the first step on the Noble Eightfold Path. It is 
followed by right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right 
effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. Why do we begin with right 
understanding? We do so because, to climb a mountain, we must have the summit 
clearly in view. In this sense, the first step on our journey depends on the 
last. We have to keep the goal clearly in view if we are to travel a path which 
can take us surely to that goal. In this way, right understanding gives 
direction and orientation to the other steps of the path."
        (Della Santina, Peter 'The Tree of Enlightenment')

From the same book:  

"... the Noble Eightfold Path has been divided into the three ways of practice: 
(1) morality, or good conduct, (2) mental development, and (3) wisdom."

---

So, how do you get to 
                the top of Mount Carnegie Hall? 
                                     Practice.  Practice.  Practice.  

 
Thoughts:

"The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but 
to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, 
intellectual attachments of the past. "
          (LILA, Chapter 9) 


 “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and 
always... I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most fundamental of all 
the postulates of Psychology” 
    (W. James, 1890)


“Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who 
looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes” 
         (C.G. Jung)
 
 
Marsha



    

> How can one ever hope for "right way
> Thought-speech-listening" what is "right way?" Who deems it so?
> All those quotes juSt farts in the wind
> If there is no standard for " right way"
> Thoughts , projections ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:12 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Andre,
>> 
>> Record of what, and interpreted by whom?  Who is at the core of such opinion?
>> 
>> I thought you had decided to delete my posts rather than read them.  
>> Possibly you should have kept silent rather than announce such a decision.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marsha:
>>> 
>>> If your speech is not useful and beneficial, teachers say, it is better to 
>>> keep silent.
>>> 
>>> Andre:
>>> Given your record here on this Discuss one can only hope you apply this 
>>> wisdom to yourself.
>>> 
>>> You reap what you sow.
 
 
 

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