Dear Marsha

Evolution, even the four-folded, shows that anything that saves time, i e more 
life in less days, is better and more "Right way". 

One of my readers told me yesterday that she's reading my book "Money And the 
Art..." for the fourth time now. Rhetoric is always dependant the number of 
words available, how they are arranged and the relation to the receiver.

Take care

Jan-Anders

> 15 nov 2013 kl. 13:00 skrev MarshaV <[email protected]>:
> 
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> I do not contend that the "right way" means whatever one wants it to mean.  
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yet, you contend that "right way"
>> Means whatever one wants it to
>> Mean.
>> 
>> Murder and torture can be just as
>> Right and moral if that is their goal
>> And they meditate on it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Ron,
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good philosophical question.
>>> 
>>> "Right understanding is the first step on the Noble Eightfold Path. It is 
>>> followed by right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, 
>>> right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. Why do we begin 
>>> with right understanding? We do so because, to climb a mountain, we must 
>>> have the summit clearly in view. In this sense, the first step on our 
>>> journey depends on the last. We have to keep the goal clearly in view if we 
>>> are to travel a path which can take us surely to that goal. In this way, 
>>> right understanding gives direction and orientation to the other steps of 
>>> the path."
>>>      (Della Santina, Peter 'The Tree of Enlightenment')
>>> 
>>> From the same book:  
>>> 
>>> "... the Noble Eightfold Path has been divided into the three ways of 
>>> practice: (1) morality, or good conduct, (2) mental development, and (3) 
>>> wisdom."
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> So, how do you get to 
>>>              the top of Mount Carnegie Hall? 
>>>                                   Practice.  Practice.  Practice.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thoughts:
>>> 
>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience 
>>> but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, 
>>> static, intellectual attachments of the past. "
>>>        (LILA, Chapter 9) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost 
>>> and always... I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most 
>>> fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” 
>>>  (W. James, 1890)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. 
>>> Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes” 
>>>       (C.G. Jung)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> How can one ever hope for "right way
>>>> Thought-speech-listening" what is "right way?" Who deems it so?
>>>> All those quotes juSt farts in the wind
>>>> If there is no standard for " right way"
>>>> Thoughts , projections ?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:12 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andre,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Record of what, and interpreted by whom?  Who is at the core of such 
>>>>> opinion?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought you had decided to delete my posts rather than read them.  
>>>>> Possibly you should have kept silent rather than announce such a decision.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If your speech is not useful and beneficial, teachers say, it is better 
>>>>>> to keep silent.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>> Given your record here on this Discuss one can only hope you apply this 
>>>>>> wisdom to yourself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You reap what you sow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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