"interpreted by whom? Who is at the core of such opinion?" Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:00 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > I do not contend that the "right way" means whatever one wants it to mean. > > > Marsha > > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yet, you contend that "right way" >> Means whatever one wants it to >> Mean. >> >> Murder and torture can be just as >> Right and moral if that is their goal >> And they meditate on it. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good philosophical question. >>> >>> "Right understanding is the first step on the Noble Eightfold Path. It is >>> followed by right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, >>> right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. Why do we begin >>> with right understanding? We do so because, to climb a mountain, we must >>> have the summit clearly in view. In this sense, the first step on our >>> journey depends on the last. We have to keep the goal clearly in view if we >>> are to travel a path which can take us surely to that goal. In this way, >>> right understanding gives direction and orientation to the other steps of >>> the path." >>> (Della Santina, Peter 'The Tree of Enlightenment') >>> >>> From the same book: >>> >>> "... the Noble Eightfold Path has been divided into the three ways of >>> practice: (1) morality, or good conduct, (2) mental development, and (3) >>> wisdom." >>> >>> --- >>> >>> So, how do you get to >>> the top of Mount Carnegie Hall? >>> Practice. Practice. Practice. >>> >>> >>> Thoughts: >>> >>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience >>> but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, >>> static, intellectual attachments of the past. " >>> (LILA, Chapter 9) >>> >>> >>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost >>> and always... I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most >>> fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” >>> (W. James, 1890) >>> >>> >>> “Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. >>> Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes” >>> (C.G. Jung) >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> How can one ever hope for "right way >>>> Thought-speech-listening" what is "right way?" Who deems it so? >>>> All those quotes juSt farts in the wind >>>> If there is no standard for " right way" >>>> Thoughts , projections ? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:12 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Andre, >>>>> >>>>> Record of what, and interpreted by whom? Who is at the core of such >>>>> opinion? >>>>> >>>>> I thought you had decided to delete my posts rather than read them. >>>>> Possibly you should have kept silent rather than announce such a decision. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha: >>>>>> >>>>>> If your speech is not useful and beneficial, teachers say, it is better >>>>>> to keep silent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andre: >>>>>> Given your record here on this Discuss one can only hope you apply this >>>>>> wisdom to yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> You reap what you sow. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
