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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > > "interpreted by whom? Who is at the core of such opinion?" > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:00 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> I do not contend that the "right way" means whatever one wants it to mean. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Yet, you contend that "right way" >>> Means whatever one wants it to >>> Mean. >>> >>> Murder and torture can be just as >>> Right and moral if that is their goal >>> And they meditate on it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Ron, >>>> >>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good philosophical question. >>>> >>>> "Right understanding is the first step on the Noble Eightfold Path. It is >>>> followed by right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, >>>> right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. Why do we begin >>>> with right understanding? We do so because, to climb a mountain, we must >>>> have the summit clearly in view. In this sense, the first step on our >>>> journey depends on the last. We have to keep the goal clearly in view if >>>> we are to travel a path which can take us surely to that goal. In this >>>> way, right understanding gives direction and orientation to the other >>>> steps of the path." >>>> (Della Santina, Peter 'The Tree of Enlightenment') >>>> >>>> From the same book: >>>> >>>> "... the Noble Eightfold Path has been divided into the three ways of >>>> practice: (1) morality, or good conduct, (2) mental development, and (3) >>>> wisdom." >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> So, how do you get to >>>> the top of Mount Carnegie Hall? >>>> Practice. Practice. Practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thoughts: >>>> >>>> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience >>>> but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, >>>> static, intellectual attachments of the past. " >>>> (LILA, Chapter 9) >>>> >>>> >>>> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost >>>> and always... I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most >>>> fundamental of all the postulates of Psychology” >>>> (W. James, 1890) >>>> >>>> >>>> “Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own >>>> heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes” >>>> (C.G. Jung) >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> How can one ever hope for "right way >>>>> Thought-speech-listening" what is "right way?" Who deems it so? >>>>> All those quotes juSt farts in the wind >>>>> If there is no standard for " right way" >>>>> Thoughts , projections ? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:12 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Andre, >>>>>> >>>>>> Record of what, and interpreted by whom? Who is at the core of such >>>>>> opinion? >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought you had decided to delete my posts rather than read them. >>>>>> Possibly you should have kept silent rather than announce such a >>>>>> decision. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marsha: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If your speech is not useful and beneficial, teachers say, it is better >>>>>>> to keep silent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andre: >>>>>>> Given your record here on this Discuss one can only hope you apply this >>>>>>> wisdom to yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You reap what you sow. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
