Hi Ron, I do not contend that the "right way" means whatever one wants it to mean.
Marsha > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yet, you contend that "right way" > Means whatever one wants it to > Mean. > > Murder and torture can be just as > Right and moral if that is their goal > And they meditate on it. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Ron, >> >>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Good philosophical question. >> >> "Right understanding is the first step on the Noble Eightfold Path. It is >> followed by right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, >> right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. Why do we begin >> with right understanding? We do so because, to climb a mountain, we must >> have the summit clearly in view. In this sense, the first step on our >> journey depends on the last. We have to keep the goal clearly in view if we >> are to travel a path which can take us surely to that goal. In this way, >> right understanding gives direction and orientation to the other steps of >> the path." >> (Della Santina, Peter 'The Tree of Enlightenment') >> >> From the same book: >> >> "... the Noble Eightfold Path has been divided into the three ways of >> practice: (1) morality, or good conduct, (2) mental development, and (3) >> wisdom." >> >> --- >> >> So, how do you get to >> the top of Mount Carnegie Hall? >> Practice. Practice. Practice. >> >> >> Thoughts: >> >> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience >> but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, >> static, intellectual attachments of the past. " >> (LILA, Chapter 9) >> >> >> “Introspective observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost and >> always... I regard the belief [in introspection] as the most fundamental of >> all the postulates of Psychology” >> (W. James, 1890) >> >> >> “Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. >> Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes” >> (C.G. Jung) >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >>> How can one ever hope for "right way >>> Thought-speech-listening" what is "right way?" Who deems it so? >>> All those quotes juSt farts in the wind >>> If there is no standard for " right way" >>> Thoughts , projections ? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:12 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Andre, >>>> >>>> Record of what, and interpreted by whom? Who is at the core of such >>>> opinion? >>>> >>>> I thought you had decided to delete my posts rather than read them. >>>> Possibly you should have kept silent rather than announce such a decision. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Marsha: >>>>> >>>>> If your speech is not useful and beneficial, teachers say, it is better >>>>> to keep silent. >>>>> >>>>> Andre: >>>>> Given your record here on this Discuss one can only hope you apply this >>>>> wisdom to yourself. >>>>> >>>>> You reap what you sow. >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
