John to Andre:
Intellectual patterns do not compete with social patterns and never have.
Andre:
This just about summarizes your entire paragraph John and it's an
indication of a very confused understanding of the MoQ. How you can
reach such a conclusion is beyond me. And you maintain that you have a
good understanding of the MoQ?
As Phaedrus, reflecting on what Rigel threw at him at breakfast,
exclaims in almost desperation: 'Where has he been during this whole
century? That's what this whole century's been about, this struggle
between intellectual and social patterns. That's the theme song of the
twentieth century'(LILA p168).
But don't take my or Pirsig's word for it:
Look at what is happening in various parts of the Arab world. Look at
what is happening in the Ukraine at the moment. Look at what is
happening in various parts of Africa. Look at the underground movements
in China and the not-so-underground activities in other parts of S-E
Asia. And let's not forget by taking a critical look at what's happening
in our own backyards (eg intellectual values vs populism)
John:
'that sounds right - "the highest inclusive". Note then that the highest
is not competitive with all the others nor antagonistic toward those
"below"'.
Andre:
See my note above and look at the MoQ's take on evolutionary theory. As
Pirsig argues: 'Morality is not a simple set of rules. It's a very
complex struggle of conflicting patterns of values'...'This has been a
century of fantastic intellectual growth and fantastic social
destruction. The only question is how long this process can keep
on'(LILA p 169)
And you are suggesting that all is milk and honey between Lila, Rigel
and Phaedrus? C'mon John. I'm sorry but my impression is that you are
very, very confused about Pirsig's MoQ.
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