[JC] I try and keep it simple. What does my speech mean? To the average person on the street? Intellect has a definition and art have definitions. Quality doesn't have a definition. So I'd rather speak in terms of classic and romantic (the problem space) because that's where the one's I talk to, dwell.
[Arlo] Well, okay, but that is not what you said. You said, "I associate the romantic with art". YOU. Not "the average person on the street". If your goal is to use the crisis in ZMM to help "the average person on the street" expand their vision as to what "art" is, then all power to you. If you, personally, continue to associate ZMM's "romantic understanding" with "art", then you're missing Pirsig's point. [DMB] And of course that solution space IS the MOQ rather than its metaphysical enemy, namely SOM with its artless attitudes of objectivity. [Arlo] Exactly. Associating "art" with the "romantic" (and in parallel, divorcing "art" from the "classical") is the heart of the SOM crisis in ZMM. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
