[Ant] Coming back to Pirsig, the latter would say (and Patrick agrees with him on this point) that we are ALL artists; you can rebuild a motorcycle artfully or you can "bugger around" (such as the monkey like mechanics in ZMM who only secured one of Pirsig's motorcycle wheels with one properly tightened nut). You can write artfully, deal with your personal relationships in an artful way; in fact do ANYTHING that requires a little bit of concentration in an artful way. I think that's the important issue when looking at art in the context of Pirsig's work.
[Arlo] I really should read my inbox 'last in, first out' rather than oldest first. Yes, this. Exactly. This is what I was trying to say to Ron in my post a few minutes ago. [Ant] Finally, regarding the recent notion of "Artists" (invented by Kant & friends) is that Patrick replaces the latter term with the more accurate (and always in lower case!) term "fine artists". [Arlo] I can see this, but I prefer simply "painter", "sculptor", "photographer", "dancer", "musician", etc. Umbrella categories are fine and all, but to me it makes more sense to describe the activity directly whenever possible. [Ant] I think it's work of art in itself! [Arlo] It very much is. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
