Disgusting. depressing,.....cannot be anything else. Anthony is a decent chap,same goes for you DMB, and most others here. But apparently John is arranging his own MD-funeral in his last moments of MOQ exellence, his last stunning insights to be displayed on our eyes. Completely abnormal,delusional,and fucking pointless all the way.
Yes, indeed, Dr Mc Watt, David,a disgrace. Adrie 2014-05-18 17:44 GMT+02:00 david <[email protected]>: > Ant said to John: > .., your attitude here stinks. It's disrespectful and (as I've noticed > over then last few months) you've made very little if any substantive > comments about the MOQ; which, of course, is the reason that we are meant > to be here. > > > > John replied: > When you say "about", do you mean parrotting? Because that's something > weird I've encountered with both you and dmb, that you think the MoQ is to > be memorized and staticized whereas I believe that metaphysics of Quality > implies potential for continuuing betterness. That is, the question of what > is good and not, can be asked ad inifitum about anything and everything, > including the MoQ itself. It's a process, not a thing. You guys seem to > want to carve it in stone and cause it to be worshipped. That's the > problem with humanity, they try and make a religion out of everything. Well > not the MoQ, fuck you very much. This is sacred ground and not to be > contained in your shelves and definitions, white man. > > Then John wrote an apology letter to Robert Pirsig: > > Dear Bob, I apologize for the abject state of your only academical > representation in the world today. Unfortunately you were right all along > and no person of Quality would want to have anything to do with that > instrument of asshole-ery - the academy. I feel somewhat to blame because I > really felt early on that if I'd just cared enough, I could have taken SOM > on in the academy myself but in the end I decided I'd rather keep my sanity > and have a family and a happy life. It was self-serving, in a way, but all > I can say was that it seemed the quality decision at the time. But when I > see what we've come to, I may have made a mistake. Sorry, Yours > prayerfully, John > > > > dmb says: > > SOUR GRAPES - "An expression originating from 'The Fox and the Grapes,' > one of Aesop's Fables. It refers to making a false pretense to form a > rationalization, i.e., not to care for something one wants, but does not or > cannot have." > > "I didn't really want those grapes," John said with his heart longing for > the sweet fruit, "they're probably sour anyway." > > John's self-serving bullshit is the kind of thing that gives rhetoric and > sophistry a bad name. Since he cannot or will not meet the most basic > standards of intellectual quality, his tactic is to attack those standards > and attack those who respect such standards. If he were sick, he'd portray > health as something to avoid like the plague. If he were penniless, he'd > condemn wealth and so it is with intellectual values and standards. John's > delusional and self-aggrandizing bullshit does not meet the most basic > standards of quality and so his foolish pride demands that he construe them > as something we should not want. According to John, precision and accuracy > is just "parrotting," remembering and understanding is just is just for > those who "think the MoQ is to be memorized and staticized" and those who > condemn contradictory nonsense "want to carve it in stone and cause it to > be worshipped" and "make a religion" out of it. Even definitions are a > violation "sacred ground", he says > to the "white man". "Fuck you", John says to the guy with the PhD and the > guy with the Masters degree, and he doesn't "want to have anything to do > with that instrument of asshole-ery - the academy". If he'd "cared enough," > John claims, he "could have taken SOM on in the academy" but that would be > at odds with sanity, "a family and a happy life". Yea, those grapes would > would have been downright bitter. They're poison. They are the forbidden > fruit, the font of evil, the source of madness, they'll destroy your family > and your happiness. Intellectual values are for parrots and higher > education is for assholes. > > But John is not anti-intellectual. No way. I can't imagine where anyone > got that idea. That's just crazy. > > But seriously, I think John has no business in a forum like this. He not > only doesn't care about the point and purpose of this forum, he's openly > hostile to it and does nothing but get in the way of those who do care > about making sense and who do understand what Pirsig is saying. John is not > a critic or gadfly or rebel. He's just a narcissistic asshole, an ignorant > and childish blowhard. Apparently he thinks it's better to be hated than > ignored. As long as he gets attention, nothing else matters. > > > Disgusting. 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