Ant said to John:
.., your attitude here stinks. It's disrespectful and (as I've noticed over
then last few months) you've made very little if any substantive comments about
the MOQ; which, of course, is the reason that we are meant to be here.
John replied:
When you say "about", do you mean parrotting? Because that's something weird
I've encountered with both you and dmb, that you think the MoQ is to be
memorized and staticized whereas I believe that metaphysics of Quality implies
potential for continuuing betterness. That is, the question of what is good and
not, can be asked ad inifitum about anything and everything, including the MoQ
itself. It's a process, not a thing. You guys seem to want to carve it in stone
and cause it to be worshipped. That's the problem with humanity, they try and
make a religion out of everything. Well not the MoQ, fuck you very much. This
is sacred ground and not to be contained in your shelves and definitions, white
man.
Then John wrote an apology letter to Robert Pirsig:
Dear Bob, I apologize for the abject state of your only academical
representation in the world today. Unfortunately you were right all along and
no person of Quality would want to have anything to do with that instrument of
asshole-ery - the academy. I feel somewhat to blame because I really felt early
on that if I'd just cared enough, I could have taken SOM on in the academy
myself but in the end I decided I'd rather keep my sanity and have a family and
a happy life. It was self-serving, in a way, but all I can say was that it
seemed the quality decision at the time. But when I see what we've come to, I
may have made a mistake. Sorry, Yours prayerfully, John
dmb says:
SOUR GRAPES - "An expression originating from 'The Fox and the Grapes,' one of
Aesop's Fables. It refers to making a false pretense to form a rationalization,
i.e., not to care for something one wants, but does not or cannot have."
"I didn't really want those grapes," John said with his heart longing for the
sweet fruit, "they're probably sour anyway."
John's self-serving bullshit is the kind of thing that gives rhetoric and
sophistry a bad name. Since he cannot or will not meet the most basic standards
of intellectual quality, his tactic is to attack those standards and attack
those who respect such standards. If he were sick, he'd portray health as
something to avoid like the plague. If he were penniless, he'd condemn wealth
and so it is with intellectual values and standards. John's delusional and
self-aggrandizing bullshit does not meet the most basic standards of quality
and so his foolish pride demands that he construe them as something we should
not want. According to John, precision and accuracy is just "parrotting,"
remembering and understanding is just is just for those who "think the MoQ is
to be memorized and staticized" and those who condemn contradictory nonsense
"want to carve it in stone and cause it to be worshipped" and "make a religion"
out of it. Even definitions are a violation "sacred ground", he says
to the "white man". "Fuck you", John says to the guy with the PhD and the guy
with the Masters degree, and he doesn't "want to have anything to do with that
instrument of asshole-ery - the academy". If he'd "cared enough," John claims,
he "could have taken SOM on in the academy" but that would be at odds with
sanity, "a family and a happy life". Yea, those grapes would would have been
downright bitter. They're poison. They are the forbidden fruit, the font of
evil, the source of madness, they'll destroy your family and your happiness.
Intellectual values are for parrots and higher education is for assholes.
But John is not anti-intellectual. No way. I can't imagine where anyone got
that idea. That's just crazy.
But seriously, I think John has no business in a forum like this. He not only
doesn't care about the point and purpose of this forum, he's openly hostile to
it and does nothing but get in the way of those who do care about making sense
and who do understand what Pirsig is saying. John is not a critic or gadfly or
rebel. He's just a narcissistic asshole, an ignorant and childish blowhard.
Apparently he thinks it's better to be hated than ignored. As long as he gets
attention, nothing else matters.
Disgusting. Depressing.
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