John,

Yes, very good...  Probably the best post that I've ever read on MOQ Discuss 
or, in fact, in relation to Pirsig.  It's great to have such a great talent on 
board at MOQ Discuss.  As Clint Eastwood said once, "it made my day" to read 
your incisive contribution here.

Cheers,

Ant



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>
> Ant,
>
> It makes sense to me that we're all artists but it doesn't make sense to me
> that everything we do is art. Everything we do, could be art, but it
> depends upon the kind of attention - or caring - we give to our endeavours
> or acts.  As usual I'm not interested in what you're saying or what Pirsig> 
> said but just my own ego and producing more nonsense here than a very large> 
> shed with a very large herd of cows in it with severe diarrhea.
>
> Couldn't it be said that art is an offshoot or development from caring? If
> we care about the plumbing, we'll pay attention to what we're doing. But
> if we don't care too much, so we're obsessing over minutiae, we won't 
> notice that ant has rewritten my post full of bull. So the guy who takes up 
> clubbing, so he can dance to his heart's content we call a "swinger" or a 
> "piss artist". And I do think there is an invalid distinction to be made, 
> even in "pollution space" (see above comment about cow sheds) since we 
> can't care about everything, all the time. However, ignoring the above jc
> drivel, I suppose it's just unrealistic to expect that everyone here can 
> make a positive contribution which would be good.
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Ant McWatt <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> 
> I don't want to tread on Ian G's effort to get some responses he's happy
> with to his thread about post-intellectualism so consider this a new 
> thread.
 
> Just a quick couple of points about art, artist etc. What I now find
> helpful in this context when discussing the MOQ is Patrick Doorly's 2013
> book "The Truth About Art". I'll keep reminding anyone that I meet who is
> interested in both fine art AND the MOQ is there is no other text better
> than Patrick's about this subject IMHO. In fact, even if you are
> interested in the MOQ alone, Patrick's exposition of it alone is extremely
> sharp and in many ways (especially if you're looking for a more "factual"
> explanation) straight forward than Pirsig's two books. My review of
> Patrick's book can be found via this link:
 
  http://robertpirsig.org/Doorly.htm


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