arlo,
one - that was a process describing critcism very explcitly, indeed
recommending it as sound teaching for the novice.
two - sure I broke my own (aspirational) rule. so what should you read into
that rhetorical choice. more ad-hominen things about ian or .....

ian
On 16 Jul 2014 14:54, "ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Ian]
> In fact I was tempted to respond to this from Arlo ....
>
> "...As I tell students I work with, the simplest progression is "A said B.
> A was wrong about B. This is why A was wrong about B. I propose C instead
> of B. Here's why C is better." Each step in this progression is subject to
> examination for accuracy, and you can't conflate criticism with one step as
> criticism for another (or all)."
>
> That this is the problem.
> It's all criticism, the cart before the horse.
> Nothing before the disagreement.
>
> [Arlo]
> Except, what I wrote is not "criticism" by any stretch of that word. It's
> a simple presentation of a process. Could I have been more elaborate?
> Perhaps. But I guess I am used to working with people who wouldn't need
> this process elaborated upon. Apparently, I was wrong. (Yes, you can count
> THAT as "criticism".)
>
> I am tempted to point out that your reply to this, however, was all
> criticism. And you didn't follow your Dennett-steps yourself.
>
> [Ian]
> Criticism is to be used very, very, very, very sparingly, and only after
> 1, 2 and 3 are established in the conversation.
>
> [Arlo]
> Do as I say, not as I do, eh? (Count that as a bonus "criticism".)
>
>
>
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