Hey Jan, John , I think the idea being expressed In that quote John posted is that what often is passed as "fact" is often opinion or point of view. An assumption . However, facts or truth in scientific terms is verifiable in experience. Often that quote or idea is popularly misapplied in academic environments today. -Ron
> On May 20, 2015, at 4:04 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi JC > > Doesn’t that show the dichotomy between a social moral, which is defined by a > group excluding other groups, and the intellectual moral level, where > scientific concepts are the same for any individual? > > The Zip Codes for New York City, The number of states in the USA, E=MC2, > Thermodynamics and algebraics etc. > > All the best > > Jan-Anders > >> 19 maj 2015 x kl. 20:35 skrev John Carl <[email protected]>: >> >> Perhaps the most powerful idea to filter through from the universities to >> the streets was articulated by Foucault, who adapted and popularised the >> Nietzschean idea that what passes for truth is actually no more than power. >> There are no facts, only attempts to impose your view on the world by >> fixing it as "The Truth". This idea is now so mainstream that even a >> conservative like Donald Rumsfeld could complain about those who lived in >> the "reality-based community", arguing "that's not the way the world really >> works anymore ... when we act, we create our own reality." >> >>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> "Unless we can make a convincing case that the choice is not between >>> relativism or dogmatism, more and more people will reject the former and >>> embrace the latter. When they do, those who helped create the impression >>> that modern, secular rationality leaves everything up for grabs in the >>> marketplace of belief will have to take their share of the blame." >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I know Baggini is not too well favored here but he does make an >>> interesting observation much akin to RMP >>>> In regard to cultural crisis and the return to conservative dogma. >>>> http://gu.com/p/jm38/sbl >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> -- >> "finite players >> play within boundaries. >> Infinite players >> play *with* boundaries." >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
