> On May 27, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > Aristotle says something similar in book alpha of metaphysics, that we seek > to render the unintelligible intelligible. We impose limit on experience in > order to better understand it. > I think that is different than a will for > Absolutes. > I think that's where some disagree > With Royce. > Ron > To add: This rendering of wholes out of the many bits of experience is an artistic act so that it is a will toward greater Meaning not so much a truth in terms Of absolutes.
>> On May 25, 2015, at 5:00 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> dmb, all, >> >> >> >>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:27 AM, david <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Baggini wrote: >>> >>> "The clash of civilisations is happening not between Islam and the West, >>> as we are often led to believe, but between pragmatic relativism and >>> dogmatic certainty." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> dmb says: >>> >>> We don't need Truth to be Objective, Fixed, Absolute, or Eternal and we >>> can't have that kind of truth anyway. But we do need truth to be vigorous >>> enough and strong enough to kill lies, bullshit, fanaticism, propaganda, >>> honest mistakes and good old fashioned stupidity. We need excellence in >>> thought and speech and ideas that actually work when they're put into >>> practice. >> >> "The contrast is not one between intellectualism and pragmatism. It is the >> contrast between two well-known attitudes of will, — the will that is loyal >> to truth as an universal ideal, and the will that is concerned with its own >> passing caprices. >> >> And yet, despite all this, the modern assault upon mere intellectualism is >> well founded. The truth of our assertions is indeed definable only by >> taking account of the meaning of our own individual attitudes of will, and >> the truth, whatever else it is, is at least instrumental in helping us >> towards the goal of all human volition. The only question is whether the >> will I really means to aim at doing something that has a final and eternal >> meaning. >> >> All logic is the logic of the will. There is no pure intellect. Thought is >> a mode of action, a mode of action distinguished from other modes mainly by >> its internal clearness of self-consciousness, by its relatively free >> control of its own procedure, and by the universality, the impersonal >> fairness and obviousness of its aims and of its motives. An idea in the >> consciousness of a thinker is simply a present consciousness of some >> expression of purpose, — a plan of action. A judgment is an act of a >> reflective and self-conscious character, an act whereby one accepts or >> rejects an idea as a sufficient expression of the very purpose that is each >> time in question. Our whole objective world is meanwhile defined for each >> of us in terms of our ideas. General assertions about the meaning of our >> ideas are reflective acts whereby we acknowledge and accept certain ruling >> principles of action. >> >> And in respect of all these aspects of doctrine I find myself at one with >> recent voluntarism, whether the latter takes the form of instrumentalism, >> or insists upon some more individualistic theory of truth. But for my part, >> in spite, or in fact because of this my voluntarism, I cannot rest in any >> mere relativism. Individualism is right in saying, "I will to credit this >> or that opinion." But individualism is wrong in supposing that I can ever >> be content with my own will in as far as it is merely an individual will. >> The will to my mind is to all of us nothing but a thirst for complete and >> conscious self-possession, for fullness of life. And in terms of this its >> central motive, the will defines the truth that it endlessly seeks as a >> truth that possesses completeness, totality, self-possession, and there >> fore absoluteness." >> >> J Royce - William James and other Essays on the Philosophy of Life >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
