the anti-entropic miopic, found that cancer was thought to be tropic if it werent for these beams and energy streams, things here would be quite Catastophic -X
[Case] Escaping the sun they come beaming To be trapped by the life forces teeming Down here on the planet They get taken from granted In biology's incessant scheming [Mark] Life utilises energy as it undergoes entropy yet increased in order and complexity. Further than this, social patterns, which increase in complexity further than biological patterns cannot be described in entropic terms. [Case] Life does not use entropy. It uses energy waylaying it, and transforming it as it moves toward dissipation. Mark 01-02-07: Please demonstrate that all values obey chaos theory and i shall agree with you. This will then be the end of the moq as we know it. [Case] I can not resist noting that none of this causes problem for the MoQ as I know it. Mark 01-02-07: Fair enough but i need to see how this applies to social and intellectual patterns. [Case] Once you grant that the earth is an open system, thermodynamically speaking, then all of the problems go away. It is no longer a question of entropy but a question of how the influx of energy is dispersed. For social patterns it is a matter of how the society is able to find and exploit energy source. If we set the wayback machine to visit Great great... Granddaddy Uga we find him busy with his invention of fire. He figured out a way to take the sunlight trapped inside fallen tree branches and convert it to heat. This allowed him to cook his food and warm his children. The food he uses to convert the suns energy stored in small game to his own bodily energy. He makes children to keep the ball rolling. The sophistication of a society is measured by its ability to use energy. Agriculture allows the trapping and storing of sunlight in food to be more predictable and readily available. The result is the society can support more people. The wheel allows horse power to be used more efficiently. Water wheels convert the flow of water into work. Use of fossil fuels allows energy stored many years ago to be converted into energy to power cars, electric plants and foreign wars. As societies evolve the ability to use energy, they are better able to support intellectuals in the manner to which they have grown accustomed. In short the transformation of energy into biological processes and into work is all about the many ways that sunbeams get released from bondage. The study of the flows and paths energy takes is thermodynamics. All of this is possible because the sun provides more energy than all of us can possibly use at the moment. It is this inflow of energy that makes this planet such a Dynamic place. But entropy is never overcome it is simply overwhelmed. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
