Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Platt] > Taxes, for example, are hijacked from citizens at the point of a gun. > > [Arlo] > Taxes are a means towards a social infrastructure, enacted by democratically > elected representatives of the people, without which the strong social > firmament we all enjoy would be impossible. No one forces me with a gun to pay > taxes, just like no one is forcing me not to kill anybody, I do both > voluntarily because I understand the increased freedoms I will enjoy by doing > so. From a protective military, to free travel on our waterways and roadways, > to EMT services, libraries, and providing for free, open public lands, to > providing for the basic health and food needs of our poor, to subsidizing > corporate research, our taxes are a vital, and necessary part of the Great > Land > we live in. > > Your above statement represents one of the most outrageous distortions in > modern > political discourse.
I don't know what planet you are living on at times, Arlo. Surely you know what ultimately happens to people who don't pay taxes due. > [Platt] > No kidding. Communism has slaughtered untold millions of its own subjects. > > [Arlo] > "Communism" has really not ever been seen. What you talk about is > Totalitarianism, such as Stalinism. Can you point to any national communist system that isn't or wasn't totalitarian? > [Platt] > Bringing you and me untold riches -- the free market a fertile ground for DQ. > > [Arlo] > Shiny toy objects, yes. But like Pirsig points out, the great power and wealth > comes at an expense. But why point that out when "untold riches" are really > the > only thing that matters. Yes, shiny toy objects like EKG monitors, anesthesia machines, respiratory ventilators, cautery units, etc, etc. -- all those objects that save countless lives. But why point this out when capitalism to you means exploitation. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
