Quoting Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Platt] > Seems to me that with your superior knowledge that you could tell the > difference between distribution and redistribution. Most sixth graders can. > > [Case] > Well you got me there. I really can't tell. Perhaps you could explain the > difference to me.
When sixth graders don't know the meaning of words they look them up in the dictionary. I presume you can do that, too. > [Platt] > As for government being defined as the legal use of coercive power, I've > been saying that for years. Taxes, for example, are hijacked from citizens > at the point of a gun. > > [Case] > How astute of you. I am guess you started saying that around the early '80s. > But as I have pointed out several times taxes are ONLY levied upon those who > earn income or own property. No one forces us to do that and in fact we will > provide a subsistence living even to those who are unable or unwilling to > participate. No one forces anyone to participate in the economic system. But > there is a charge to play. That charge is taxes and if you elect to play and > not pay; well then we break out the firearms. Yes. It strikes me as depraved that those who provide sustenance to parasites are the ones who the government aims its firearms at? > > [Case] > > It is the application of force that is the problem not the specifics of > > the system. Pirsig claims communism is a higher moral code than > > capitalism. What he sees as the failure of socialist systems to allow for > > the action of DQ is really a matter of trying to exercise too much force > > and control in the economy. > > [Platt] > No kidding. Communism has slaughtered untold millions of its own subjects. > > [Case] > The slaughter of millions is by no means confined to communism. Capitalists > do it, Christians do it, Muslims do it. We really only tend to get outraged > about it when somebody else is doing it. I guess you see no difference between killing to defend freedom and killing to insure continuance of a totalitarian regime. > > [Case] > > Capitalism is nothing more that abstract Darwinism. > > [Platt] > Bringing you and me untold riches -- the free market a fertile ground for > DQ. > > [Case] > I thought the free market did not exist. Aren't the economies of the west > mixed economies? Especially in Europe where as you have said they are > nothing but a bunch of pinkos. Yet there they are cranking out the wealth. > Maybe they missed your memo. Again, I guess you see no difference between the American and European economies in terms of percentage of growth. I beginning to worry about your inability to make distinctions. > [Platt] > I guess your superior knowledge has ignored the rise of modern German and > Japan after WW II. Oh, well . . . > > [Case] > Funny how when your mind wanders between communists and fascists so much I > just they kind of blend together, huh? My point was that the use of force > follows a kind of Newtonian principle. If you force something there is > resistance that leads to escalation and increased violence. It works that > way when communists do, when fascists do it, when Christians do it, when > Muslims do it. That's the way it works. Communists and fascists are both totalitarian systems. Again, no difference between them and us in regards to the use of force? > You know it is also odd that you fear the power of government, then support > those who actively seek to infringe on your freedoms while vilifying those > who seek to protect them. You love the "Patriot" Act and hate the American > Civil Liberties Union. In the topsey turvey world of Platt that may seem to > make sense but to some of us it seems like there is a need for remedial > civics lessons. Where did I ever say I love the Patriot Act and hate the ACLU? Are you dreaming again at your junior high classroom desk? ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
