[Ron]
The balloon analogie was to express that the galaxies are expanding with
space not
So much as In space...I think the NASA site uses a raisen bread
metaphor..which
Perhaps is alittle better.

[Case]
Yeah the raisen bread example is a little better except wouldn't you thing
the raisens would be getting bigger too?

[Ron]
You had posted a site awhile back that explained the theory of the 10
dimensions and how
Other theories were derived by 2-d vs. 3-d v.s 4-d and what you stated
occurred to me also,
How can a 2-d aware object "be aware" of anything that applied to a 3-d
world? 2-d strictly, is
Conceptual. Those 2-d concepts are then applied to a 3-d world, which
really have no real 
Relavence. They make for neat ideas but rationally I have trouble with
it.

[Case]
I know I am beating this dimension thing to death but I don't really get it
either. As I mentioned we can not really even imagine the lower dimensions
without reference to the higher ones. But we can approximate the higher ones
with the lower ones as well. So where are we? Mandelbrot's fractional
dimensions help since it allows us to see that things exist in as multiple
dimensions. I was getting at that a while back talking about traffic.

In my car the world is all 3D and spacey. Viewed from space my car is a
point on a line.

Now when you start thinking about the future or remembering the past you are
performing a 5th dimensional activity because you are moving back and forth
in time. 

Even when you think of an apple you are modeling a 3D object which requires
you to spin it in time.

I suspect it all starts with vision in which you construct 3D understanding
out of 2D input. The kinesthetic sense is the only one of our five senses
that actually occurs in 3D. Even sound is a poser since the sound waves are
received sequence.




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