Hi Platt If you look at the murder rate with firearms then the U.S. is 8th on the list, whereas Germany is at 21 and the UK is at 32:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir_percap-crime-murders-firearms-per-capita Horse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Matt poot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Hi all, >> >> Platt, I just wanted to comment on the erroneus nature of your comment. >> >> You said: the terrorists in Iraq armed with little more than handguns >>> and explosives are doing a pretty good number on the US Military. >> Just to let you know, the insurgents in that country are extremely heavily >> armed. RPG's and Kalasnikovs are fairly easy to attain. A large part of >> the casualties are cause by Improvised Explosive Devices. Their armament is >> considerably more dangerously effective than handguns. > > What I meant by handguns was guns individuals can carry as opposed to heavy > artillery. I believe both RPGs and Kalasnikovs can be carried by individuals > but please correct me if wrong. Also, you will note that I mentioned > explosives > as a weapon used by terrorists against the the US military. I should have > added > such explosives are used by Al Quada and other terrorists for mass killings of > civilians including school children. > >> Also, you said; >Since similar school killings have occurred in recent years >> in Scotland and >>> Germany I think it's simplistic to blame those in the U.S. on a unique >>> "culture of >>> violence." > >> In the past 6 years, there have been over 200 fatal school shootings in the >> U.S. in the past 6 years alone, with an average of 1 young person dying >> every week. >> > > (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v5/content/subscribe?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FLAC.20070417.COLETTS17-1%2FTPStory%2F%3Fquery%3Dnumber%2Bof%2Bschool%2Bshootings&ord=22129502&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true) > > I went to the website but was unable to locate the data you referred to. > The murder rate per capita by country is shown in a table at: > > http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita > > The U.S. ranks 24th among the 62 countries listed. > > My point in naming Germany and Scotland as countries which also have suffered > mass > school killings was that the killings occurred in spite of very stringent gun > laws. > There have also been school killings in China. > >> In the end, I think it was the "loose straw" gene theory. If a crazy person >> really wants to kill people, then they can go and do that. This is why they >> are crazy. > > Yes, I agree completely. I don't think a supposed "culture of violence" has > anything to do with it. The guy was nuts. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
