Quoting Horse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Platt
> If you look at the murder rate with firearms then the U.S. is 8th on the 
> list, whereas Germany is at 21 and the UK is at 32:
> 
>
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir_percap-crime-murders-firearms-per-capita
> 
> Horse

Hi Horse, 

I would be interested in your reaction to the following article from the
Independent and Blair's comments about black crime. At the risk of being
accused of being politically incorrect, I think there's a relationship
between the problems in Britain and our high murder rate statistics. 

Thanks.
Platt


The truth about black on black crime
Tony Thompson visits Britain's estates and finds that knives and guns are a 
problem
in all communities
Published: 15 April 2007

Wilted flowers, candles and remnants of cards lie in front of a graffiti 
artist's
spray-painted tribute to 15-year-old Billy Cox. The black teenager was shot and
killed on Valentine's Day a few metres away, in a flat on a south London 
estate. A
stone's throw and a social class away from Clapham's gastropubs and delis, the 
murder
was one of a spate of such killings.

The police appear powerless to stop the violence, arriving to deal with the
casualties and, sometimes, arrest the assailant after blood has been spilled.

Yesterday, a 14-year-old wounded in a drive-by shooting last week was released 
from
hospital. He was luckier than some of the other victims in a series of turf 
wars. All
seven of the young men shot or stabbed to death in London since the beginning of
February have been black.

This prompted Tony Blair to speak out last week, claiming the spate of murders 
in
London was not being caused by poverty, but by a distinctive black culture.

The Prime Minister's views put him at odds with Baroness Scotland, a Home Office
minister and arguably one of Britain's most influential black women, who has 
said gun
crime is a problem for the country as a whole and produced statistics to back 
up her
view.

In 2004-05, there were 78 fatal shootings in England and Wales. Of these, 40 of 
the
victims were white, 25 black, seven Asian. The figures do not record the 
ethnicity of
the killers but, by and large, murderers tend mostly to target members of their 
own
ethnic group.

In 2005-06, there were 50 fatal shootings. Eighteen victims were white, 19 
black and
four Asian. That same year, 351 black people were injured by guns. For whites,
injuries totalled 2,952.

The statistics confirm that the problem of gun crime is not unique to the black
community, but they provide stark evidence that the black community is
over-represented to a frightening degree.

According to the 2001 Home Office census, Britain's black community makes up 
just 2
per cent of the total population. Yet each year around a third of all shooting
victims are black. About one in 10 victims are of Asian origin, a population 
that
makes up just 4 per cent of Britain's total.

Research to be published later this year is expected to highlight concerns that 
young
people are being recruited into adult gangs through older family members or 
friends.
The study is based on research by the Youth Justice Board into gangs and 
weapons.

However, it concludes that it is rare for under-18s to belong to hardcore gangs.
Instead, the study will say that teenagers offend in less organised groups, 
that they
carry out violence spontaneously and carry knives for their own protection,
especially if they have been victims of crime.

Paul Kwasi, 40, a security officer on the North Peckham estate notorious for the
killing of 10-year-old Damilola Taylor seven years ago, said: "I don't think 
Tony
Blair was right to say what he did. The solution is for us all to get together 
to
sort it out. The Government needs to stop the infiltration of guns into the 
country.
It isn't just black people using or selling them - white people do it too."



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