Ian

Was is this 'larger' not fullyin our control
yet not entirely beyond it? Would you say?
What does DQ provide that SQ does not?

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ian glendinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] On Life and death


> David,
> 
> Is "a person" "a pattern", no.
> 
> People are patterns upon patterns upon patterns, ... etc, and some of
> those patterns are more or less static than others, static patterns
> arise in other more dynamic patterns (resonances / coherences) and not
> all those patterns have convenient boundaries at the edge of any one
> person.
> 
> The bits we call patterns are simply those more long-lived (more
> static) aspects of the things in which they emerge as patterns.
> 
> In Pirsig's words ...
> "although the pattern included the flesh and blood of Chris, that was
> not all there was to it. The pattern was larger than Chris and myself,
> and related us in ways that neither of us understood completely and
> neither of us was in complete control of"
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/4/07, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Arlo
>>
>> What Pirsig says about life and death is interesting.
>> But this idea of 'pattern' needs unpacking. Is a person
>> a pattern?
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