[Dan G.]
> I feel it is not something a person can know
> intellectually so even if I 
> know it is not something I can share with you via
> this medium. Anything I 
> say will fall short of the mark. So if you guess I
> don't know, that's about 
> right. I don't know, intellectually.
 
     I know what you mean, but this kind of
description talks about many activities.  For example,
some people meditate by focusing on their breath or
staring at an image.  I talking about what is involved
during the practice to compare to what I practice
which is 'just sitting staying relaxed while remaining
alert'.


     [SA previously]
> >barely blue, so dark, so dark,

     [Dan G.] 
> Still light out here but dusky,

morning light now, but sun is behind a hill,
SA

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